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Ethereum co-founder Joe Lubin on SEC battle, Solana and Vitalik Buterin

Ethereum co-founder Joe Lubin on SEC battle, Solana and Vitalik Buterin

May 30, 2024 Season 1 Episode 23 42 min 15 sec
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This episode of Decentralize with Cointelegraph features an in-depth conversation with Ethereum co-founder and Consensys CEO Joe Lubin. Lubin delves into the SEC’s attempts to classify Ether as a security and the broader legal battle in which Consensus is involved.

Lubin weighs up the damage of regularity uncertainty in the U.S., its impact on Ethereum ecosystem participants and the costs the wider cryptocurrency industry has incurred.

The Ethereum co-founder also discussed Ethereum’s ongoing roadmap, the importance of modularization, and the layering approach for scalability. Staking, the return on investment for validators, and the inherent risks are also unpacked at length.

EigenLayer is another topic of discussion. Lubin explains how innovations like retaking and elastic security resources will transform startup operations in the blockchain space.

The Consensys CEO also discusses the Solana ecosystem and how Bitcoin shaped his journey into the world of cryptocurrencies and blockchain. Lastly, he recaps Vitalik Buterin’s ongoing influence on the Ethereum ecosystem.

Guest’s Twitter: @ethereumJoseph @ethereum @Consensys
Host’s Twitter: @gazza_jenks

Cointelegraph’s Twitter: @Cointelegraph
Cointelegraph’s website: cointelegraph.com 

Timestamps:
(00:00) - Introduction and initial thoughts on the SEC

(00:50) - Clash of civilizations and technology benefits

(03:37) - Gary Gensler and the SEC’s strategy

(04:57) - Legal contingencies and relocation

(07:03) - Costs and burdens of regulatory uncertainty

(11:47) - Political landscape and potential changes

(14:30) - Decentralization and institutional involvement

(19:02) - Ethereum’s ecosystem and modularization

(21:16) - Future scalability and ecosystem interoperability

(26:00) - Staking Ether and risk assessments

(27:25) - Innovations by EigenLayer and Liquid Staking

(30:46) - Solana’s performance and place in the blockchain ecosystem

(35:00) - Joseph Lubin’s first encounter with Bitcoin

(35:49) - Bitcoin’s role and evolution

(38:07) - Vitalik Buterin’s influence and organizing transformation

(39:37) - Consensys’s global operations, commitment to the U.S. market

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This episode was hosted by Vince Quill, @VinceQuill and produced by Savannah Fortis, @savannah_fortis.

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